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Socrates And Athenians

 

            
             The Athenians generals, Cleomedes and Tisias, came with their forces to the Melian territory. Their quest was to bring the Melians to their side in war or destroy them. The only thing that is standing in their way is Socrates. Now the question is can Socrates save the Melians? And if so how will he do this? Truly we will find this out through this paper. For I cannot answer neither one of those questions at this point.
             The Athenian's only demand is to make the Melian an allied nation that will help in the objects of war (97). The Athenian's reasoning in this demand is that the Athenians do not want look weak to their enemies and to their allies by letting the Melians stay neutral. They also worry of the islanders doing something foolish like rebellion (99). The consequence of failing to do as the Athenians command is usually death (99)(93). The other argument that the Athenians discuss is the weakness of the Melians. Hope is not an option for the weak Melians, for this kind of hope will get them killed (103). The Athenians also argue that the gods favor the strong over the weak(105). The last point in favor of the Athenians is that there are no nations that will come to the aid of the Melians (109). The Athenians state that Socrates" points have to be on the grounds of justice.
             In retort Socrates points out that this debate will be on the grounds of justice. Socrates will point out the justice is difficult to define. In attempt to define justice Socrates will create an ideally just city; pointing out that if this ideal city can be created, then the people in this city will be just. He will talk about how the city will work and how it is set up. Primarily, a city comes into being because individuals are not self-sufficient. Thus, many people come together to provide for each other, creating a settlement called a city. With this in mind, it can be inferred that people share their products with others because they think such an action is for their own good.


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